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		<title>By: dtoub</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind words. Your country is pretty enlightened regarding abortion, as I&#039;ve noted before: http://dtoub.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/an-enlightened-attitude-about-abortion/.

I&#039;m no longer in practice, incidentally, and regret not being able to provide this service and train residents. Our health care system is very different from Canada&#039;s, and many gynecologists end up either changing states or leaving practice entirely. Hopefully Obama&#039;s health care reform will take hold---we need a better system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your kind words. Your country is pretty enlightened regarding abortion, as I&#8217;ve noted before: <a href="http://dtoub.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/an-enlightened-attitude-about-abortion/" rel="nofollow">http://dtoub.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/an-enlightened-attitude-about-abortion/</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no longer in practice, incidentally, and regret not being able to provide this service and train residents. Our health care system is very different from Canada&#8217;s, and many gynecologists end up either changing states or leaving practice entirely. Hopefully Obama&#8217;s health care reform will take hold&#8212;we need a better system.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happened upon your blog in light of Dr. Tiller&#039;s death, and I just wanted to express my utter gratitude for the work you do, and the courage and honesty with which you carry out your duties. I&#039;m a Canadian woman, so things are a bit easier for us up here, and although I&#039;ve never needed to consider an abortion I have friends and family members who have; and I am grateful that I live in a country that respects a woman&#039;s life enough to allow her the courtesy of being the sole decision-maker in the choices that will most affect her. 
I was born in 1980, so I grew up as a member of the first generation of Canadian women to go trough puberty post-Morgenthaler (the SC decision that abolished the last legal restrictions on abortion in Canada).  Because of this, I&#039;ve never had to go through the agony of having nowhere to turn, nor have any of my friends of similar age. I haven&#039;t lost friends to butchers, I haven&#039;t known anyone - of my age - to have their dreams of future children taken away from them as a result of complications from an illegal operation (although I have met older women who have had to live with this). 

And for this freedom, this luxury of choice, I have you, and others like you - doctors, nurses, and other health care providers &amp; supporters - to thank. To you and future doctors like the one who commented above me on this thread, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Although we are from different countries, with different laws, the stand you make strengthens us all. 

And I can&#039;t thank you enough for having the courage to make it. 

Kindest Regards, 
EJ Keith, Ottawa, Ontario</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened upon your blog in light of Dr. Tiller&#8217;s death, and I just wanted to express my utter gratitude for the work you do, and the courage and honesty with which you carry out your duties. I&#8217;m a Canadian woman, so things are a bit easier for us up here, and although I&#8217;ve never needed to consider an abortion I have friends and family members who have; and I am grateful that I live in a country that respects a woman&#8217;s life enough to allow her the courtesy of being the sole decision-maker in the choices that will most affect her.<br />
I was born in 1980, so I grew up as a member of the first generation of Canadian women to go trough puberty post-Morgenthaler (the SC decision that abolished the last legal restrictions on abortion in Canada).  Because of this, I&#8217;ve never had to go through the agony of having nowhere to turn, nor have any of my friends of similar age. I haven&#8217;t lost friends to butchers, I haven&#8217;t known anyone &#8211; of my age &#8211; to have their dreams of future children taken away from them as a result of complications from an illegal operation (although I have met older women who have had to live with this). </p>
<p>And for this freedom, this luxury of choice, I have you, and others like you &#8211; doctors, nurses, and other health care providers &amp; supporters &#8211; to thank. To you and future doctors like the one who commented above me on this thread, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Although we are from different countries, with different laws, the stand you make strengthens us all. </p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t thank you enough for having the courage to make it. </p>
<p>Kindest Regards,<br />
EJ Keith, Ottawa, Ontario</p>
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		<title>By: dtoub</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much. I really appreciate your comments. And no, it is not at all an oxymoron. I did it as well, although I confess I was more of a laparoscopic  surgeon than an obstetrician after awhile.

Don&#039;t rush the “coming out” part. It&#039;s an individual choice. I was very careful when I was in practice, especially after I had my daughter. It changes one&#039;s perspective, since it isn&#039;t just about you. But being careful isn&#039;t synonymous with denial. I never lied about what I did and remain proud and humbled to have provided this service to many women. But it&#039;s admittedly easier to be “out” in terms of abortion once one has left clinical practice. Many of my fellow abortion providers were genuinely scared in the 90&#039;s and with good reason. Several providers were shot and killed, along with courageous volunteers and staff. That changed things quite a bit. So there&#039;s nothing wrong at all with flying under the radar. But still, many established providers need to declare themselves or at least not deny what they do when asked. The more providers who speak out, the better. Good luck with your training. Guess I can&#039;t talk you out of being a doctor. 8-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much. I really appreciate your comments. And no, it is not at all an oxymoron. I did it as well, although I confess I was more of a laparoscopic  surgeon than an obstetrician after awhile.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t rush the “coming out” part. It&#8217;s an individual choice. I was very careful when I was in practice, especially after I had my daughter. It changes one&#8217;s perspective, since it isn&#8217;t just about you. But being careful isn&#8217;t synonymous with denial. I never lied about what I did and remain proud and humbled to have provided this service to many women. But it&#8217;s admittedly easier to be “out” in terms of abortion once one has left clinical practice. Many of my fellow abortion providers were genuinely scared in the 90&#8217;s and with good reason. Several providers were shot and killed, along with courageous volunteers and staff. That changed things quite a bit. So there&#8217;s nothing wrong at all with flying under the radar. But still, many established providers need to declare themselves or at least not deny what they do when asked. The more providers who speak out, the better. Good luck with your training. Guess I can&#8217;t talk you out of being a doctor. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PassionateProvider</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David, 

Great post. Very powerful. 

I&#039;m currently in my last year of medical school. I have organized abortion training opportunities at my school since my first year. Now that I am in my internship years, I have also had the privilege of working with and learning from practicing providers. I am looking forward to a career where I can be involved in the full spectrum of women&#039;s reproductive health. An abortion-providing baby-delivering doctor is not an oxymoron. In fact, I think it is a pretty awesome combination. 

Your call for &quot;coming out&quot; of providers does not fall on deaf ears. I agree with you completely. I&#039;m not quite there yet, unfortunately. The pseudo-anonymity of twitter et al. has made it easier for me to share my thoughts and passions. As I gain confidence, and, more importantly, a sense of interconnectedness to like-minded people, the need for anonymity is diminishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David, </p>
<p>Great post. Very powerful. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently in my last year of medical school. I have organized abortion training opportunities at my school since my first year. Now that I am in my internship years, I have also had the privilege of working with and learning from practicing providers. I am looking forward to a career where I can be involved in the full spectrum of women&#8217;s reproductive health. An abortion-providing baby-delivering doctor is not an oxymoron. In fact, I think it is a pretty awesome combination. </p>
<p>Your call for &#8220;coming out&#8221; of providers does not fall on deaf ears. I agree with you completely. I&#8217;m not quite there yet, unfortunately. The pseudo-anonymity of twitter et al. has made it easier for me to share my thoughts and passions. As I gain confidence, and, more importantly, a sense of interconnectedness to like-minded people, the need for anonymity is diminishing.</p>
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